Sunday, May 10, 2009

A Dutch Auction for the Talmud

Recently I noted, by way of statcounter, that someone arrived at my second Holocaust piece from a link posted at a site called 'HYIP Ranks Forum'. Best I can tell it's chockablock full of very wicked anti-Semites. One of them, who goes by the name of Freefox saw fit to post some very wicked slurs against Jews that he says are direct actual quotes from the Talmud. Frankly I was shocked. Surely these must be untrue? Were they true, Jews would have to be the wickedest people in the history of wicked people.

Ordinarily I would do a lengthy google search to find out if all of these quotes were actually from the Talmud. How tiresome. And then a light bulb went off! Why not do the fact-checking process as a variation of Dutch auction? In much the same way that a Dutch auction skips the lengthy bidding routine by starting high and taking a single bid from whoever is prepared to pay, I thought I could sling all the quotes out in public and then merely delete whichever ones that knowledgeable members of the reading public can demonstrate are false.

So! Over to you folks. If any of these are not factual, drop me a line in the comments and I'll make the appropriate emendations.

In devotion to the truth (and efficiency),

yours aye,

nobody


1. 'We beg Thee, 0 Lord, inflict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in Thee. Take away, 0 Lord, all hope from them. Destroy all foes of Thy nation.' -Synagaga Judaica, p. 212. Minhagen, p. 23. Crach Chain, 480 Magah.

2. 'The teachings of the Talmud stand above all other laws. They are more important than the laws of Moses.' -- Rabbi Issael, Rabbi Chasbar, et. al.

3. "The decisions of the Talmud are words of the living God. Jehovah Himself asks the opinion of the earthly rabbis when there are difficult affairs in heaven." -- Rabbi Menechen Commentary on Fifth Book-

4. "Jehovah Himself studies the Talmud standing, he has such respect for that book." -- Tract Mechillo.

5. "It is more wicked to question the words of the rabbis than those of the Torah." -- Michna Sanhedryn 11:3.

6. 'It is forbidden to disclose the secrets of the law. He who would do it would be as guilty as though he destroyed the whole world." -- Jektat Chadasz, 171, 3.

7. "Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die.', --Sanhedryn, 59a, aboda Zora 8-6, Szagiga 13.

8. "To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly." -- Libbre David 37.

9. "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death." -- Libbre David 37.

10. "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."--Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Via 17.

11. "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.,, -- Saba Mecia 114, 6.

12. "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves." -- Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D.

13. "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." -Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L.

14. "As soon as the King Messiah will declare himself, He will destroy Rome and make a wilderness of it. Thorns and weeds will grow in the Pope's palace. Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them. He will slay them in masses, kill their kings and lay waste the whole Roman land. He will say to the Jews: 'I am the King Messiah for whom you have been waiting. Take the silver and gold from the goyim.' .. --Josiah 60, 6. Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13.

15. !! Struck from the list!! (see comments)

16. "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl." -- &ad. Shas. 2:2.

17. "A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat." --Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan 9ruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

18. "A Jew may misuse the non-Jewess in her state of unbelief." -- Maimonides, Jak. Chasaka 2:2.

19. " IF a goy kills a goy or a Jew he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy he is NOT responsible." --Tosefta. 9boda Za,-a 8, 5.

20. "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."--Schuichan Qruch, Choszen Hajpiszpat jog

21. "Thou shalt not do injury to thy neighbor (Bible), but it is not said, 'Thou shalt not do injury to a Goy.' " -- Mishna Sanhedryn 57.

22. "When you go to war do not go as the First, but as the last, so that you may return as the first. Five things has Kanaan recommended to his sons: 'Love each other, love the robbery, hate your masters and never tell the truth.' " -- Pesachis F. 113B.

23. "A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer." -- Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia.

24. "A Jew may rob a goy - that is,.he may cheat him in a bill, if unlikely to be perceived by him." -Schalchan Arach, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

25. "If a goy wants a Jew to stand witness against a Jew in a Court of Law, and if the Jew could give fair evidence, he is forbidden to do it; but if a Jew wants a Jew to be a witness in a similar case against a goy, he may do it." -- Schalchan .9ruch, Choszen Hasiszpat 28, Art. 3 and 4.

26. "Those who do not confess the Torah and the Prophets must be killed. Who has the power to kill them, let them kill them openly with the sword. if not, let them use artifices, till they are done away with." -- Schulchan Qruch. Choszon Haviszpat 425.5.

27. "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general' "--Schalchan arach. Choszen Hasisxpat 348.

28. "Should a Jew inform the goyish authorities that another Jew has much money, and the other will suffer a loss through it, he must give him emuneration."--Schalchan Oruch, Choszen Maipiszpat 388

29. 'How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."--Tosefta, Qbda Zara VIRZ, 5.

30. "On the house of the goy one looks as on the fold of cattle." -- Tosefta, Erabin VZZ, 1.

31. "All vows, oaths, promises, engagements, and swearing, which, beginning this very day or reconciliation till the next day of reconciliation, we intend to vow, promise, swear, and bind ourselves to fulfill, we repent of beforehand; let them be illegalized, acquitted, annihilated, abolished, valueless, unimportant. Our vows shall be no vows, and our oaths no oaths at all." -- Schulchan 9ruch, Edit. 1, 136. (The Jewish Kol Nidre ['All Vows"] Oath has been set to a morbid Jewish music, and is often heard on the radio. it is sung as a chant at each Yom Kippur [Jewish New Year] service [September 17].)

32. "Everything a Jew needs for his church ritual no goy is permitted to manufacture, but only a Jew, because this must be manufactured by human beings and the Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings." -- Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaiw 14, 20, 32, 33, 39. TaIDud Jebamoth 61.

33.. "A Jewish mid-wife is not only permitted but she is compelled to help a Jewish mother on Saturday (Jewish Sabbath) and when so doing to do anything which otherwise would desecrate the Saturday. But it is forbidden to help a non-Jewish woman even if it should be possible to help her without desecrating the Saturday, because she is to be considered only as an animal." -- Schulchan gruch, Orach Chaim 330.

34. "At the time of the Cholhamoed the transaction of any kind of business is forbidden. But it is permitted to cheat a goy, because cheating of goyim at any time pleases the Lord." --Chuichan Qruch, Orach ChaiD 539.

35. "The Jews are strictly Forbidden to cheat their brothers and it is considered cheating already if onesixth of the value has been taken away from him. Whoever has cheated his brother has to return it to him. Naturally all that only holds towards the Jew, to cheat a goy he is permitted and he is not permitted to return to him what he cheated him out of. Because the Bible says: 'Thou shalt not cheat thy next brother,' but the non-Jews are not our brethren, but as mentioned above, worse than dogs." -- aruch hoszen Haniszpat 227.

32 comments:

Frank said...

Nobes,

Good 'un. I cannot tell a lie: THEY'RE ALL TRUE!

Ok, I didn't check it that fast. Not possible. But long ago I read Henry Ford and Old Henry had loads and loads of Talmud quotes. I am about 90% certain of at least half of them just from reading Henry.

For anyone that wants, Henry Ford's THE INTERNATIONAL JEW is available for free PDF download AT:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4976851/The-International-Jew-by-henry-ford

Now this is true: I come from an industrial family and they knew stuff. Henry had Jewish managers for a lot of Ford dealerships, and they distributed TIJ at Ford dealers.

The Jewish managers, I absolutely know for fact, agreed with Henry. Even added some local color sometimes. Before Israel, most American Jews were assimilated.

No kidding. This was a free country once.

Skye said...

Scary shit Nobody, and still, people just don't get it. What does it take to make people understand?

kikz said...

love it. glad you posted it. the goy should know.

the talmud.. babyonlian or otherwise is quite the nasty piece of work.

KosherMotions said...

www.dailymotion.com/comments/onuser/QuoTodt

Look out for this one. He has been swarmed and then deleted.

KosherMotions said...

http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2899&page=3

I believe that these are the writings of Brendon O'Connell.

Just so you know Nobody, the Israel Art Peddlers have visited my family Home while the kids, were in the house, A drinking mates house where they apparently wanted a liquid refreshment, and the offices of my employer.

And all because of words to the effect of "we don't believe you !!"

What kind of people are these ? What do they fear.

nobody said...

Thanks folks,

Actually to be honest with you, I read all this years ago and I'm sure you all did too. And believe it or not, back then I already checked them out to see if they were fake.

The best I could find was a variety of pathetic individual caviling capped with an overall 'Oh, it was like that then but it's not like that now'. Which is curious given that this is their single greatest holy book of which not one jot nor tittle may be changed and is otherwise studied endlessly.

Not forgetting that the books themselves declare that none of it may be revealed to goyim and if goyim find out about it, it's beholden upon the believer to lie about it anyway. And they say it's not true do they? Um, okay, for whatever that's worth...

Otherwise, I actually did do another brief search on this again and noticed that the Talmud comes in all manner of media, ie. on CDROM, palm pilot, etc. The logic being that believers may be strengthened in the faith by a little daily immersion so to speak. And yet mady it's not online anywhere. Draw your own conclusions.

And koshermotion, they visited your house and work? Bad ugliness. And I thought the Jehovah's witnesses were bad...

nobody said...

Waitaminute! I just had a flashback memory! Back in the early seventies when the old man was a major, we were living in Canberra and some foreigners (remembering now - two young men in their twenties with olive skin) came to our house selling precisely that variety of bullshit factory art. I've no idea what country they came from. I'll ask the old man but I doubt he'll remember.

The art student scam couldn't have been going on that long could it? And in Oz? Surely not...

the Silverfish said...

No.11 is the biggest lie of all as there has never been a Jew that was even close to being human. They are nothing but vermin and should be treated as such.

KosherMoshuns said...

http://www.vimeo.com/2444686

It's the MiniMossadim apprentices at work. Spying on recalcitrant Goyim who refuse to kneel as a Noahide, and thus render the Self Chosen irrelevant. I suspect it is supposed to make us frightened and fearful. All it does is make one feel that all the accusations made against them throughout history...are true.

Its what Schizoid Gollum does best.....Sneakin'..and presenting what ever face suits his need.

Penny said...

I am going to take a pass on this one.

I hate the quotations of ancient text, as if it is actually relevant in this day and age. Or as if it is actually rational or important??
Only to a fanatical believer.


When I was back there in seminary school, lol, in catholic school, same drivel, no one but the catholics were good enough, no one but the catholics were going to be saved, blah, blah, blah.
Marry a catholic, or in my case and italian catholic?

That didn't work out at all!

One can find endless sites that post this same kind of stuff from the Qur'an (spelling?)
and just take a gander at the christian bible, good god!

I just fail to see it as anything but religious rhetoric, spouted to cause an "us vs them" mentality and to promote a belief, however fictitious, in an imaginary superiority.

The only thing I will agree with is because of all the religious indoctrination in Israel, far too many Israelis come off as fanatics.
Also because far too many persons have joined zionism with judaism, they have co-mingled religion with fanatical beleifs held in a bizarre political movement, which has resulted in what can be summarized as messianic (religious)insanity gone political.

nobody said...

So Pen, you think that there are similarities between Judaism and its two split-off sects? Sure of course there are. I'm not saying there ain't.

And sure enough in those countries that are ostensibly Christian we're fairly familiar with the wickednesses of our religion. And God knows that we're familiar with those of Islam. The Jewish media is, amongst other things, an anti-Muslim hate machine. The only people who get a free ride are Jews. As far as anyone knows, it seems that their religion is free of blemish. And it ain't. They have blemishes aplenty. And with Jews perpetually painting the people whose land they covet as villains, it's only fair that the slanderers cop equal scrutiny.

And besides, merely shrugging your shoulders and saying well, they're all equally bad is somewhat ordinary. It's a bit like condemning as equal the kids who stole your sandwiches with the guys who backed a truck up to your house and took all your furniture. Just as we can make judgements about which of these is the more wicked, we can also do the same thing with religions.

Whilst the Catholic church (whose name means 'for all' and not by accident neither) may declare Catholics preferable for marriage purposes etc (mind you, all my schooling was Catholic and I recall no such messages, but never mind), it didn't say that it was right and proper to lie, cheat, steal, and rape those who didn't belong to the faith. And yeah, they did all those things, but in a catholic fashion.

Besides is there anything is the Christian scriptures like - "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." Or even close? Really?

And nor can you dismiss it as old hat. The talmud is 'it'. They study it endlessly. It's what defines them. And dismissal of detail is one thing but the totality here is horrific. Hell, I'm going to have to disagree with you when you say that the various scriptures are much of a muchness. Those things that are declared a sin in Christianity and Islam are here declared virtues provided one does them to goyim. Good God! Do sins become virtues in either of the two sects depending on whom you do them to?

And nor is it confined to a few marginal fanatics in Israel who are otherwise giving Judaism a bad name. Whatever is wrong with those fanatics is mirrored in the Jews who run the media and won't hear a bad word spoken about Israel. It's mirrored in the people who've turned Harper into a worthless sellout drone who covers for genocide. Not that Harper is alone. Everyone kowtows.

Honestly mate, there's no point railing on about the individual wickednesses of Israel and genocide, usury and impoverishment, the media and the debasement of culture, and the aforementioned kowtowing of our leaders and governments, if you're going to give a pass to the wellspring from which it all derives. Honestly.

Me, I don't want to snip around the edges. I want to get to the heart of the beast. And here it is - it's called the talmud.

nobody said...

BTW - Did everyone see this over at WRH? It's extraordinary. It's about how Germany turned from a basket-case to world power in a few short years. I wrote about it briefly here but this thing blows my thing to the weeds. It's chock full of details and otherwise brilliant. Good comments too.

nobody said...

Statcounter weirdness - it seems my recent piece 'Australia Sucks Israel's Cock' is copping heaps of traffic and mostly on account of people hitting google to search for either 'israel cock', or 'israeli cock'. What's that all about? Somehow I don't think it's about roosters...

ShmekelPecker said...

http://www.ownparty.org/

An attempt at resurrection


Some might just be short a few shmekels and hoped they'd find a bit here.
You're probably being sussed as not fit and proper to be declared righteous amongst Gentiles.

You'll have to practice your kneeling skills if you wish to become a Noahidiot. Noahides love to kneel before Pharisees.

nobody said...

Not quite sure where you're coming from, but, oh look! Let's package up the opposition in the raiment of the world's most discredited people. Brilliant. But I already wrote about this here.

BTW I once met James Ellroy at a book signing and asked him who his favourite author was. He said himself. I thought he was a dick for saying so but now I know what he means, ha ha. Which is to say I just read that piece I linked to here, and really grooved on it. Narcissistic, I know. Mind you, I was right about Ellroy. He is a dick.

the Silverfish said...

The thing over at WRH? This blew you to the weeds? Perhaps you should have read that book I sent you. These facts were known to me by the time I was Five years old so no surprises here no being blown to the weeds, nope, nosiree, not even a little.
People who lived through that time and in that place tend not to forget but they are mostly gone now and the rest of the world either never knew or just didn't give a flying fuck one way or another. So nope there were NO surprises in that peace for me but what the hell do I know? I'm just the offspring of flat headed krauts that lived through it.

Penny said...

hi nobody:
I thought my response may cause consternation, but, the issue for me is all religions, well the supposed big three, anyway.

Buddhism seems to be less nasty.

Anyway, when I fell, I fell hard, I guess harder then I even realized.

ALL Religion is,is the ultimate sales pitch, that is how I see it.

Act this way, do this, do that and you will be "rewarded" this is what they seem to boil down too.
You can kill this person, but not that one.

Why? Because one is religiously indoctrinated "correctly" vs an incorrectly indoctrinated.
The very concept of it is such bullshit.

I remember when I used to post on this forum, and some Einstein papers came out, a jewish man, and he said he didn't believe the jews were chosen. Do you recall that?

Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter
I thought finally, brilliance.
Though I admit there was a Jewish person who thought it was just terrible, you could tell it really bothered him that einstein had written this.

whatever?

I always thought this idea that if there was a "god" why on earth in his infinite wisdom would he "create" mankind and then play favourites? By having his chosen?
Like this has to be the most stupid concept ever. Who could actually believe this drivel?
Only fanatical true believers.

As for the Jewish religion getting a free pass. Certainly more then the muslim faith, but that is no surprise is it? Given the current wars on terror?
But, it's religious teachings are clearly full of bullshit.

I guess for me, religion is so bogus, I want all this crap to be totally irrelevant, and for people to see it as irrelevant. And to look on other human beings as equals.

As long as their are religions to divide, this will never happen.

But that is just me, I guess.

I just can't change that feeling at this time.

nobody said...

Ayah, Silv...

It didn't blow me to the weeds. It blew what I wrote to the weeds, ie. 'was better than it'. And it was better, what with it being less about the author and more about the subject. Unlike here, ha ha.

And I know you know all about it but lots don't so I thought I'd point them at it.

Thanks Pen, no worries.

Anonymous said...

Was just reading yesterday that the "rooting-a-three-year-old-is-okay" quote is taken out of context, according to Israel Shamir:

http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Hoffman.htm

It "is as nothing" in that the adult, who as a 3 y.o. was rooted, cannot be blamed or held responsible for being rooted. See?

So you can probably cross that one off the list.

Shamir's review is worth a read, as he seems to be well placed to judge these matters fairly.

Peter.

nobody said...

Thanks Peter,

That wasn't a bad read actually. Otherwise given the relentless calumnies and bullshit we have heaped upon us in the other direction, part of me wants to leave it in there as an act of bloodymindedness. If you know what I mean. But then there's the fact, that one renders oneself liable to attack by a variant of a straw man, ie. it's an obvious weak point that can be declared false with the spurious follow-on of 'therefore it's all false'. Thanks for that.

nobody said...

#15 - "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." -- .9boda Sarah 37a.

Please see Peter's comment above (and specifically his link) to see how this quote taken in isolation is misleading to the point of being on its head.

nobody said...

Mind you let's not forget that as it has been misused here by those without, so it can be misused by the simple minded, or indeed by disingenuous self-serving motherfuckers who are within.

Given that the nature of its essential point, ie. that a woman who was molested as a three year old ought not to be rejected on account of no longer being virginal, is frankly stupid to begin with; and also given that the abuse of such a teaching is pretty much a certainty, oughtn't it to be struck altogether?

But gee whiz, then where would we be? "Um, we threw that bit out of our holy scriptures because it was, um, 'not right'. But the rest of it IS right! So right that God reads it in order to know what to think. Everyone feel free to place your faith in this book and otherwise just carry on!"

Ha! Three cheers for holy books and the word of God! Or is that 'word for God'? Who cares?! Huzzah! Huzzah!

prejudice codified said...

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/article.aspx?id=331860


This might be that Brendon O'Conell.

Curious given that the entire relgion of the "Jews" is codified racial prejudice.

Every Gentile is judged even before we are born. Whether of innocent goodwill to all Men or open and honest with regards to intent, we can never join the ranks of the "Chosen", who are captured matrilinealy by the racial laws that define just who is a Jew and therefore who is "Chosen".

prejudice codified said...

Another interpretation of the three year old absolution is this.

Everything and anything is permissible and given to the "Jews" as long as it does not bring the perpetrator ill repute.
There are many laws to do with "face" and absolution in the scribblings of the Talmud.

A three year old is unlikely to remember the incident or the perpetrator, therefore no harm is done, and the need of the perpetrator is satisfied via the act.

Truth and history is discovered by democratic consensus and protected by "LAW".

Reputation is everything, hence the Anti- Defamation Commission to enforce a favourable consensus through LAW and fear.

nobody said...

Hey PC (oops unfortunate diminutive but never mind), you are spot on. If the Jewish people have a single talent, that would be their extraordinary ability to imagine how they want things to be (and always in a self-serving fashion) and then convince everyone that it is so. It's their posited 'reality' over everyone else's 'actual' reality. Kind of thing.

Objectionable though that might be, you gotta admit they're pretty good it. Ha! Let's substitute the phrase 'mind bogglingly' for 'pretty' in that last sentence. Works a treat!

nobody said...

Thanks 'They're watching',

Er, yeah, curious. Who knows? I'll be on another box tomorrow and I'll check out the link. Mind you, I don't know why they'd use a Swedish firm. Wouldn't one in the SLC make more sense?

Sorry folks, bit cryptic, ha ha.

Anonymous said...

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/general-political-discussion/52212-australians-set-rally-oconnell-may-18th.html

nobody said...

It seems I missed all of this. Brendan O'Connell, eh? I'll get googling.

Jamie said...

You all need to consider history WAY beyond the current American (Jewish colored) history of the war and Hitler and consider the extent of the books of the Talmud of the Scribes... an entirely different book from the Talmud that "doesn't include these bad things". Us goy will not be allowed to see the true version, with these truths printed in them. It's the Holy War that is still going on, the occupation of Jerusalem and the Dome of the Rock things that we are still fighting against today, and the Jews that run America and American media have scientifically brainwashed any of these indications from coming through to you on T.V or anything... ...do not be scared to think for yourself!

Gary Carlyle said...

I think most people would agree that any 'God' plan for us would be to experience life and to make choices. Either as a test or simply to evolve the grander consciousness.

The document in question, and it is just a document and not a spiritual text, seems the complete opposite. Almost satanic.

There is a big difference between the general Jewish population and Zionism. But do they not all read it? and abide by it? Just asking. I am curious.

Still, all this is just rhetoric.

This craziness happens on most planets that have a pathological anti-civilisation. Its mysticism and dishonesty that cause that.

Anonymous said...

Scribd has been hasbaraed:
"The document 'The International Jew by henry ford' has been deleted"

Are you familiar with Douglas Reed's monumental historical work, The Controversy of Zion? It is still available and is an important read:
http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/Controversybook/

The preface by Ivor Benson describes the consequences suffered by the author. Oddly enough, a hard copy is now available through a brave publisher in Oz. Aside from calling Reed an anti-semite, there is little other defense against his meticulously referenced and footnoted work. It cost him his career as a successful novelist and journalist. He was a war/postwar correspondent for the London Times in Palestine in 1948. Boots on the ground. A first hand accounting.

Anonymous said...

@penny Seriously what crap Penny, I went to a christian school run by the Society of Jesus. I am not catholic but their message was, love and respect everyone, be tolerant of everyone, be fair and just and share all that you can to make another persons life better, treat others as you want to be treated yourself, they spoke out against usury and corruption and war. Yes they are bad things in the old testament, but dont focus on these, never heard any priest tell me to kill someone who wasnt catholic, to rob someone who is not catholic, to rape a girl who is over 3 years old, they never outed me because I didnt beleive, they told me that I can come and join them whenever I want and they will accept me and teach me all I want to know. Any book that places on man above another and creates such bigotry or a field for bigotry should immediately be burnt and cease to exist on this planet. Seriously as well, sub human beasts? WTF? does that count for all those that have converted to Judaism, they were beasts and now humans in Jew form. The more I read it sounds like a cult, but not all members are responsible only the leaders of fanaticle groups. Modern science disproves all of their myths, so anyone that believes in organised religion is a chump or a cult member.